  {"id":30989,"date":"2025-08-27T10:59:10","date_gmt":"2025-08-27T02:59:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/about\/?post_type=futures-platform&#038;p=30989"},"modified":"2026-03-23T14:32:03","modified_gmt":"2026-03-23T06:32:03","slug":"the-future-of-podcast-ep-138","status":"publish","type":"futures-platform","link":"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/about\/futures-platform\/the-future-of-podcast-ep-138\/","title":{"rendered":"The Future Of | EP 138"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>The Future Of, a podcast powered by Âé¶¹Ö±²¥, where experts share their vision of the future and how their work is helping shape it for the better.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sustainable Futures: climate, curriculum and collaboration<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What do an urban designer, an electrician and Âé¶¹Ö±²¥ have in common? They all want to help humanity prosper. To achieve that, sustainability is key.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<mimas-block \n        block-name=\"button\"\n        \n        data-align=\"center\"\n        role=\"complementary\"\n        aria-label=\"Button block\"\n        data-segment=\"all\">\n\n    \n    \n<div class=\"block-heading hidden\"\n     data-segment=\"dom\"\n     data-style=\"\"\n     data-align=\"default\"\n>\n\n                                <h2 class=\"block-heading__title \" id=\"button-block\">Button block<\/h2>\n            \n                        \n                        \n            \n                <\/div>\n\n                    <a\n    href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/podcasts\/sustainable-futures\/\"\n    class=\"button  button--deep-blue filled\"\n    target=\"_top\" aria-label=\"Listen here\">Listen here<\/a>\n    <\/mimas-block>\n\n\n<p>In this episode, our host David is joined by Professor Josh Byrne and Saf Flatters. Josh is Dean of Sustainable Futures at Curtin (he\u2019s also well-known as a presenter on ABC TV\u2019s&nbsp;<em>Gardening Australia<\/em>), and Saf is an electrical and energy specialist and third-year Curtin data science student.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Together, they explore what a \u2018sustainable future\u2019 really means, and how a novel Âé¶¹Ö±²¥ subject called Sustainability Challenge is bringing together academia, industry, government and community to create real solutions to some of the most pressing environmental and social problems.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>What does a \u2018sustainable future\u2019 mean? [03:24]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Sustainability problems more complex than ever [04:40]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Big problems mean big solutions [07:30]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Data science brings structure to complexity [08:28]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Cultivating hope and optimism [10:11]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Sustainability Challenge insights [12:29]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>There\u2019s no \u2018doctor evil\u2019 industry [30:59]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Learnings to last a lifetime [35:17]<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Learn more<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/about\/futures-platform\/sustainability-challenge-2025-a-bold-vision-for-a-better-future\/\">2025 Sustainability Challenge<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/about\/learning-teaching\/humanities\/about-humanities\/futures-platforms\/sustainable-futures\/\">Sustainable Futures<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/about\/futures-platform\/\">Futures Platform at Curtin<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Connect with our guests<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Professor Josh Byrne,&nbsp;Dean of Sustainable Futures, Faculty of Humanities<\/strong><br>Professor Josh Byrne is an environmental scientist, urban design professional and Dean of Sustainable Futures at Curtin. His career bridges academia, professional practice, media and policy, with a focus on advancing urban sustainability through demonstration and collaboration. In 2025, Josh was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) for significant service to conservation, the environment and public communication.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/staffportal.curtin.edu.au\/staff\/profile\/view\/josh-byrne-086df93e\/\">Curtin staff profile<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/josh-byrne-65b6175b\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">LinkedIn<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/orcid.org\/0000-0002-6758-339X\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ORCiD<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Saf Flatters, Bachelor of Science (Data Science) student,&nbsp;Faculty of Science and Engineering<\/strong><br>Saf describes her career path as \u201cvery twisty.\u201d With more than 15 years of experience&nbsp;as an electrician&nbsp;in the electrical and energy sectors, she\u2019s now studying a Bachelor of Science (Data Science) at Curtin. Saf is passionate about using data to solve real-world problems, and outside her studies, she runs an electrical business, serves on industry boards and spends time bike packing through hidden corners of the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/safflatters\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Join Âé¶¹Ö±²¥<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This podcast is brought to you by Âé¶¹Ö±²¥. Curtin is a global university known for its commitment to making positive change happen through high-impact research, strong industry partnerships and practical teaching.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/research\/work-with-us\/\">Work with us<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/research\/higher-degree-by-research\/\">Study a research degree<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/study\/postgraduate-by-coursework\/?utm_source=future-of&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=um-corp-future-of\">Start postgraduate education<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Got any questions, or suggestions for future topics?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Email&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:thefutureof@curtin.edu.au?subject=Audience%20question\">thefutureof@curtin.edu.au<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Social media<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/curtinuni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">X<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/curtinuniversity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Facebook<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/curtinuniversity\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Instagram<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/CurtinUniversity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTube<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/school\/curtinuniversity\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Transcript<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thefutureof.simplecast.com\/episodes\/sustainable-futures\/transcript\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Read the transcript<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Behind the scenes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Host:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/au.linkedin.com\/in\/david-karsten-581070101?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">David Karsten<\/a><br>Researcher:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/staffportal.curtin.edu.au\/staff\/profile\/view\/caitlin-crowley-4c9403d6\/\">Caitlin Crowley<\/a><br>Producer: <a href=\"https:\/\/staffportal.curtin.edu.au\/staff\/profile\/view\/emilia-jolakoska-da19627f\/\">Emilia Jolakoska<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">First Nations Acknowledgement<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Âé¶¹Ö±²¥ acknowledges all First Nations of this place we call Australia and the First Nations peoples connected with our global campuses. We are committed to working in partnership with all Custodians and Owners to strengthen and embed First Nations\u2019 voices and perspectives in our decision-making, now and into the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Music<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>OKAY by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/13ounce\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">13ounce<\/a>\u00a0Creative Commons \u2014\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported \u2014 CC BY-SA 3.0<\/a>\u00a0Music promoted by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/qkrpMJP4E-8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Audio Library<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Âé¶¹Ö±²¥ supports academic freedom of speech. 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