  {"id":18362,"date":"2021-09-23T13:05:00","date_gmt":"2021-09-23T05:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/?p=18362"},"modified":"2025-07-25T11:09:06","modified_gmt":"2025-07-25T03:09:06","slug":"education-allowed-me-to-become-a-changemaker-qa-with-sustainability-and-equality-champion-dr-sandy-chong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/education-allowed-me-to-become-a-changemaker-qa-with-sustainability-and-equality-champion-dr-sandy-chong\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Education allowed me to become a changemaker&#8221;: Q&amp;A with sustainability and equality champion Dr Sandy Chong"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-sm-font-size\"><em>Image: Dr Sandy Chong. Photo supplied by Sandy Chong.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-sm-font-size\"><strong>Author |  Luisa Mitchell<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Businessperson, philanthropist, mentor and educator, Dr Sandy Chong (BCom Management and Marketing, 1996, PhD Information Systems, 2003) has been a champion for change ever since she began her higher education journey and decided she wanted to be a &#8220;student for life.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We chatted to Sandy about her belief that being a &#8216;disruptor&#8217; isn\u2019t necessarily a bad thing \u2013 they can pave the way for positive change and create a better society. Who are the best disruptors? According to Sandy, the answer is women. Without education, she says we risk overlooking or ignoring women\u2019s potential to bring change to the world, and barring them from finding success in their careers, businesses and communities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here\u2019s what Sandy had to say about the power of education to transform women\u2019s lives and help them become better leaders, and even better disruptors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Hi Sandy. Would you tell us a bit about yourself?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m the founder of Verity Consulting, an award-winning consultancy specialising in international growth and strategic communication. I also chair the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Business Alliance, a coalition of business councils representing ASEAN countries in WA to promote trade and investment between them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My real passion is sharing my knowledge with young people, both through promoting the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) in my role as President of the United Nations Association of Western Australia, and as State Director of Australian Harvard Women. The mission there is to encourage sharing female wisdom and getting more women to study at Harvard through the Executive Education program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How did your education lead to a career in business?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It was back in 1996 when I did my PhD at Curtin on the adoption of e-commerce for business. This information and knowledge led to working in other countries and undertaking research projects overseas. I did a study tour in California and Silicon Valley which was fascinating and I met a lot of very smart academics and practitioners who shared their ideas, and I decided I wanted to start my own business.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2009 my father had a stroke, and I returned to Singapore to be closer to him. I started my own consultancy working for the Singaporean government and helping Singapore-based businesses to digitise and internationalise their offerings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"720\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/Sandy-Chong-Little-720x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6900\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-sm-font-size\"><em>Image: Sandy as a young girl (left). Photo supplied by Sandy Chong.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>Was a university education always an attainable pathway for you?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>When I was little I was a bit of nerd. I always enjoyed learning and wanted to go overseas to pursue my studies, but it wasn\u2019t easy because back in the 70s and 80s Singapore was still a developing country. Our family did not have many financial resources and even for those families that did, the opportunity of overseas education was often given to the boys rather than the girls. We just accepted it as it was then.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I was fortunate to have a great father. He always encouraged me strive for the best. But I knew deep down at the time that the options for my life were very, very limited if I stayed in Singapore.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Growing up in Singapore, I had to work really hard to get scholarships at every stage of schooling to continue my primary and secondary studies. Later on, I had to work for two years to raise the funds to come to Australia and pursue a higher education. But right from the very beginning I knew that was what I wanted. I was very fortunate too, because I had girl friends from high school whose families could only afford to send one child to university, and they would send the brothers instead. These stories have always stayed with me and I feel extremely fortunate to have been able to come to this country and be afforded an education.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>When I did get here, I finished my degree in two years. I crammed in all the units and got into the honours program, but even then my father said to me, \u201cif you want to complete your studies in Australia, you have to make it on your own.\u201d I did what I could \u2013 earned a scholarship to do my honours and then another to do my PhD. I could only do that because of the amazing support given to me by this country and the University. As a result, I don\u2019t take education for granted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>Why does education stand out as being key to your success?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>At every step of my life, whether I was in primary school, high school, university or doing my postgrad studies, education has been essential to my growth. The key players in my life were in these educational roles: the mentors and the professors. They played such a huge part in motivating me to pursue what I wanted to do. I wasn\u2019t the brightest kid in school or even in the class, but they were always patient in giving me their time and sharing their ideas and knowledge with me, which really helped me to become a passionate student.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>If I can, I would like to be a student forever. I graduated with my PhD at the age of 30, and when I reached 40, I thought I\u2019d give myself another challenge. I was at a juncture of my life in thinking <em>how do I step up as a leader? How do I actually find that vision and articulate my mission?<\/em> So I applied for the highly competitive Executive Education program at Harvard Business School. It was a tough one and took five years to earn alumni status, but it was one of the most life-changing experiences for me. It changed the way I think, the way I articulate my drive and my mission, and the way I lead profit and non-profit organisations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1165\" height=\"734\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-10-25.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-10-25.jpeg 1165w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-10-25-768x484.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1165px) 100vw, 1165px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-sm-font-size\"><em>Image: Sandy (far left) graduating for the first time from Âé¶¹Ö±²¥, c. 1996. Photo supplied by Sandy Chong.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>Once you began your studies at Curtin, did you face any obstacles as a woman and a person of colour?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I was doing my PhD in Information Systems and this was a very male-dominated field at the time. It was hard to get anyone to take me seriously. People used to think I was an assistant, not a well-published researcher or a dedicated lecturer, so that was tough. Most of the time, I would have to really assert myself to make sure people would treat me based on my intellect and values. Of course, there was also an added challenge of being a woman of colour as well.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Having said that, I met a number of amazing people in academia who gave me many opportunities to excel as a researcher and educator. They were very kind and generous with their time and opened many doors for me. I must thank the men as much as the women who made that happen for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>I&#8217;m glad there were people who made such a positive difference to your time at university. How has education empowered you since graduating?<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I learnt how to be a better and stronger person. I learnt how to access the talent within me that I didn\u2019t know existed. I learnt how to articulate my values a lot more effectively and communicate my vision. I learnt how to be more resilient emotionally, mentally and physically.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My proudest achievement was being the first Asian woman elected President of the United Nations Association in WA. I think the fact that people elected me to that position shows that there are enough good people in our community who can recognise talent and want leadership that represents and promotes diversity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t take anything for granted. As a leader, you must keep earning your stripes and proving yourself to the people who look up to you and rely on your leadership.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6902\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-sm-font-size\"><em>Image: Sandy giving an open address at the 75th Anniversary of the United Nations Day in Perth, Australia. Photo supplied by Sandy Chong.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>Now you are in a position of leadership, how do you apply these learnings to your work in sustainability?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I do my best to help the WA state and local governments promote the values of the SDGs. I\u2019m most proud of the fact that we have also now gone beyond the activism space and into the public and private sectors successfully in the last three years. Currently, we are engaging with organisations like EY, BHP, Synergy, superannuation companies and even sporting organisations like the West Coast Eagles and Special Olympics Australia, to raise awareness of the UN SDG goals. We say to them, \u201clook, we need to make a better impact in the world and we need to start defining what leadership should look like in the business sector.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of the textbooks we read today are written by American or European authors in the early 90s and 2000s. They did a fantastic job at teaching us how to transform and globalise; the only issue is, they didn\u2019t consider climate change and social equality. This is perpetuated even more today by the digital divide. In other words, if you have access to Wi-Fi, information and technology, you\u2019re going to be far more ahead than those who don\u2019t.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Australia is at this interesting crossroad right now. We can already see how some countries are leading in terms of SDG ranking when it comes to closing the gap in equality, addressing climate change or providing opportunities for less fortunate communities. We just need to continue doing more so we that can meet the SDG targets by 2030.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Things <em>are<\/em> changing. It\u2019s a bit slow and of course we\u2019re all set back by this COVID crisis, but therein lies an opportunity too. We are a lot more sensitive now about the environment, mental health and the disparity between the wealthy and less privileged. As leaders, it is incumbent on us to actually do something to close these gaps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2199\" height=\"1344\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_0048.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6903\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_0048.jpg 2199w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_0048-768x469.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_0048-1536x939.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_0048-2048x1252.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2199px) 100vw, 2199px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-sm-font-size\"><em>Image: Sandy says she is proud to now be engaging with more companies in the private and public sectors on the UN SDGs. Photo supplied by Sandy Chong.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>You&#8217;re clearly very passionate about social equality, particularly gender equality. How do you try to make an impact in this space?<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>In Singapore I give my time to the female start-up incubator space and encourage other female entrepreneurs to better articulate their offerings, prepare themselves for international expansion, and grow their businesses.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m passionate about closing the gender gap, not just in boardrooms and businesses but also in quality education. As of 2018, approximately 130 million girls in the world did not have access to education, according to UNESCO estimates. That\u2019s a real concern. Because of this pandemic, even more women and girls are deprived of education. If the family is impacted economically, the girls are the ones who often get taken out of school and may face further risk of things like child slavery. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even in a developed country like Australia, we are not seeing the opportunity that lies within educated women. They add a lot to our economy and can help us to achieve SDG targets. An educated woman is not just good for us, our community, and our country, but good for our planet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2448\" height=\"1376\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_2099.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_2099.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_2099-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_2099-1536x863.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/IMG_2099-2048x1151.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-sm-font-size\"><em>Image: Sandy speaking about women in leadership at Harvard Business School in 2018, Boston Massachusetts, USA. Photo supplied by Sandy Chong.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>What advice would you give to women who don&#8217;t feel they have leadership potential or deserve an education?<\/strong><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes I too have these doubts, but if you take a moment to reflect and ask yourself those nagging questions, then I\u2019m pretty sure you can do it. We will always be questioning ourselves on how we can do better, what we can do more, how we can be more knowledgeable. But what is most important as a leader is having good values. If you have the right values, you will have the courage to take that leap and jump into the unknown.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I think in general women don\u2019t want to trouble people, they don\u2019t want to be a burden on others, and so they tend to carry all these burdens and do everything themselves. That\u2019s great if you\u2019re a superwoman! But the problem is that we cannot get to the goal as quickly as we want being a single entity. So form alliances. Look around you and see who can complement your skills and knowledge and then move forward together. And if you think you can change a situation or see yourself as an agent of change or being a disruptor, even better! We can always use a disruptor every now and then \u2013 they make us collectively stronger. Competition in a constructive way keeps us on our toes and makes us strive for better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A bit of gung-ho is not a bad thing. If you don\u2019t ask, you\u2019ll never get it. And if you don\u2019t take a risk, you\u2019ll never know where you stand.<\/p>\n\n\n<mimas-block \n        block-name=\"article-overlay\"\n        role=\"complementary\"\n        aria-label=\"Article overlay\"\n        data-segment=\"all\">\n\n    \n\n                                            <img decoding=\"async\"\n                src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1.jpg\"\n                alt=\"Volunteering for change\"\n                srcset=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1-740x370.jpg 740w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1-1000x500.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1-480x240.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/friends\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/09\/20210923_SandyChongUN_1000x700-e1632371769540-aspect-ratio-2-1.jpg 1000w\"\n                sizes=\"(min-width: 2560px) 2560px, (min-width: 1920px) 1920px, (min-width: 1440px) 1440px, (min-width: 1024px) 1024px, (min-width: 768px) 768px\" loading=\"lazy\">\n    \n    <div class=\"article-overlay__content\">\n                    <h2 class=\"h3\">Volunteering for change<\/h2>\n        \n                    <p>Despite her busy schedule, the support of various teachers throughout Sandy\u2019s life inspired her to give her own time as a mentor and educator to youth and women.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I remember the people who gave their time to me without expecting anything in return, the right thing I could do is to pass it on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Recognising the impact of education on her career, Sandy dedicates much of her time to mentoring young people. She has mentored dozens of Curtin students since 2003 and speaks on topics such as leadership, sustainability and international business.<\/p>\n<p>Sandy won the Curtin Alumni Community Service Award in 2015 and was awarded Australian Community Citizen of the Year in 2020 for her contribution to helping young people reach their aspirations and leading organisations to deliver on philanthropic and social impact causes.<\/p>\n\n        \n            <\/div>\n\n<\/mimas-block>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-sm-font-size\"><strong>Author |  Luisa Mitchell<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>___<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<mimas-block \n        block-name=\"accordion\"\n        role=\"complementary\"\n        aria-label=\"Accordion content\"\n        data-segment=\"all\">\n\n                \n\n                    <div class=\"accordion\" aria-labelledby=\"accordion-title-Share-your-thoughts-with-us\">\n            <button type=\"button\" class=\"accordion__heading\" aria-controls=\"Share-your-thoughts-with-us\" aria-expanded=\"false\">\n            <div class=\"title\" id=\"accordion-title-Share-your-thoughts-with-us\">Share your thoughts with us<\/div>\n            <div class=\"icon\"><\/div>\n        <\/button>\n        <div class=\"accordion__content\" id=\"Share-your-thoughts-with-us\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n                    <div class=\"forminator-ui forminator-custom-form forminator-custom-form-8546   forminator_ajax\" data-forminator-render=\"0\" data-form=\"forminator-module-8546\" data-uid=\"69e2deb27d666\"><br\/><\/div><form\r\n\t\t\t\tid=\"forminator-module-8546\"\r\n\t\t\t\tclass=\"forminator-ui forminator-custom-form forminator-custom-form-8546   forminator_ajax\"\r\n\t\t\t\tmethod=\"post\"\r\n\t\t\t\tdata-forminator-render=\"0\"\r\n\t\t\t\tdata-form-id=\"8546\"\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\tdata-design=\"none\"\r\n\t\t\t\tdata-color-option=\"default\"\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\tdata-grid=\"open\"\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\tstyle=\"display: none;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\tdata-uid=\"69e2deb27d666\"\r\n\t\t\t><div role=\"alert\" aria-live=\"polite\" class=\"forminator-response-message forminator-error\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/div><div class=\"forminator-row\"><div id=\"name-1\" class=\"forminator-field-name forminator-col forminator-col-12 \"><div class=\"forminator-field\"><label for=\"forminator-field-name-1_69e2deb27d666\" id=\"forminator-field-name-1_69e2deb27d666-label\" class=\"forminator-label\">Name <span class=\"forminator-required\">*<\/span><\/label><input type=\"text\" name=\"name-1\" value=\"\" placeholder=\"E.g. 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