  {"id":29209,"date":"2025-09-04T15:25:57","date_gmt":"2025-09-04T07:25:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/?post_type=advice&#038;p=29209"},"modified":"2025-09-23T11:15:09","modified_gmt":"2025-09-23T03:15:09","slug":"tfo-podcast-sustainable-future","status":"publish","type":"advice","link":"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/advice\/tfo-podcast-sustainable-future\/","title":{"rendered":"Sustainable future? It\u2019s a challenge worth fighting for"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>From energy to skincare, sustainability seems to be everywhere. But what does it actually mean? You may know sustainability has something to do with practising habits that are good for the environment and good for humanity, but how does that happen at scale? How can societies, industries and governments practise sustainability in ways that are equitable and economical?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To answer these tough questions, Josh Byrne and Saf Flatters joined us on our podcast, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/podcasts\/sustainable-futures\/\">The Future Of<\/a>. They explained sustainability and discussed how a Curtin short course called the \u2018Sustainability Challenge\u2019 is uniting students, academia and industry to create realistic solutions to shared sustainability problems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Listen to the full conversation: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/podcasts\/sustainable-futures\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Future Of: Sustainable Futures<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Âé¶¹Ö±²¥ our guests<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/josh-byrne-65b6175b\/?originalSubdomain=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Josh Byrne<\/a>\u2019s CV includes Dean Sustainable Futures at Curtin, environmental scientist, urban designer, <em>Gardening Australia<\/em> presenter and Member of the Order of Australia. In short, his sustainability expertise is significant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-1000x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-29225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-1000x500.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-740x370.jpg 740w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-480x240.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-1260x630.jpg 1260w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-1520x760.jpg 1520w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Josh_Byrne_A4_300dpi-1920x960.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Josh Byrne.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/safflatters\/?originalSubdomain=au\">Saf Flatters<\/a> participated in this year\u2019s Sustainability Challenge. She is a qualified electrician and is now studying <a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/study\/offering\/course-ug-data-science-major-bsc-science--mjru-datsi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Data Science<\/a> at Curtin to \u201cbring structure to complexity\u201d when it comes to our energy future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"792\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Saf-Flatters-small.jpg\" alt=\"Saf Flatters\" class=\"wp-image-29216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Saf-Flatters-small.jpg 792w, https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Saf-Flatters-small-768x407.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 792px) 100vw, 792px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Saf Flatters<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">First off, what does a sustainable future mean?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p><strong>Josh:<\/strong> For me, a sustainable future is one where humanity can prosper in a fair and just way. For humanity to do well, we all have to do well.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Not only is that the right thing to do from an ethical perspective, but it&#8217;s also just common sense \u2013 if one group of people have more than others, you&#8217;re never going to have balance and symmetry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But then there&#8217;s the \u2018more than human\u2019, a term that&#8217;s used to capture all those other incredible parts of this planet that we share, and we need to make sure that the more than human can thrive as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s realising that as one species, we live within a very intricate web of life. And if we don&#8217;t recognise that and we allow it to unravel, well, that&#8217;s at our own peril.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Watch the video, \u2018What is sustainability\u2019<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"What is Sustainability\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zx04Kl8y4dE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Check out this short video by partner university UCLA that explains sustainability in under four minutes.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What is the Sustainability Challenge?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong> The&nbsp;Sustainability Challenge&nbsp;is an intensive, eight-day program where students can engage directly with sustainability challenges that matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>It\u2019s an immersive, hands-on experience that puts students in direct contact with government, industry and university academics to tackle some of the biggest global issues at a local scale.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s an environment where students can explore ideas, engage in deep learning and have a sense of ownership over sustainability problems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Saf, what was your experience of the Sustainability Challenge?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Saf: <\/strong>The experience was incredible&nbsp;\u2013 I got to work with students from courses I didn\u2019t even know existed at Curtin. My group\u2019s challenge was to come up with a strategy to decentralise power and water at Curtin, so we can become more climate resilient as water shortages and brownouts (temporary power reduction) become more common.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We had just eight days to work with a range of professionals to understand their perspective and experience of the problem \u2013 and the limitations they must work within \u2013 and then draw on all that insight to come up with a solution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I got to dive into peer-to-peer energy network trading and discovered the progress local industry had made with this \u2013 the \u2018insider goss\u2019, as it were.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>It really drove home to me that by working with people from different backgrounds we can discover more unique solutions than working in siloes.<br><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Watch student highlights from this year&#8217;s challenge<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Âé¶¹Ö±²¥ 2025 Sustainability Challenge | Student Highlights\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/U20LOKsWUtk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Should industry and government be held more accountable when it comes to sustainability action?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong> In the Sustainability Challenge, we encourage students to recognise some of the reasons why we&#8217;ve ended up where we are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>Very rarely is it because there&#8217;s some \u2018doctor evil\u2019 industry that\u2019s intentionally making all this happen or capitalising on all the wealth.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>And rarely is it a government department to blame because people are not doing their job. We try and unpack the issues with a bit more sophistication.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the things we do is explain to the students where their challenge sits within jurisdictional boundaries; to explore what&#8217;s already happening in the space with government strategy and policies, and what levers can be pulled to accelerate rapid change?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How important is hope when practising sustainability?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong> Hope is an important thing to keep hold of. There&#8217;s a lot of doom and gloom out there in the world, and it\u2019s easy to be overwhelmed by issues like climate change, but there are huge opportunities for us to apply new tools to tackle things in ways that we have not been able to do before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>And we have to be optimistic. Humanity has always been optimistic \u2013 it&#8217;s why we&#8217;re still here.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>There is this sense of wanting to be positive, to <em>do<\/em> things, and that is very much at the heart, for me, of what we mean by sustainable futures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Find out more about the Sustainability Challenge: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.curtin.edu.au\/news\/podcasts\/sustainable-futures\/\">Listen to the full episode<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From energy to skincare, sustainability seems to be everywhere. But what does it actually mean? 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